Rats, pigeons, cockroaches and starlings, they all have in common to be extremely adaptable and resilient when it comes to adjusting to new environments. But how do they do it? Our guest strove to uncover the secrets in their genetic codes. And she got some answers.

Cat and Anastasia chat with Kat Stuart, PhD candidate at UNSW Sydney, about her long and challenging journey to uncover the genetic secrets of starlings and what makes them so successful.