Most people would have heard of Darwin finches, the birds that gave Darwin the idea for the theory of evolution. In this episode, we are taking a closer look at a group of species, that may look less spectacular. But they are evolution in the making. Blennies are fish that have started making their way back to land. Our guest is telling us why the blennies would go through such a trouble.

Boiling Point host Cat and trainee Hannah Dawson are chatting with Elizabeth Surovic. Liz is a PhD student at the University of New South Wales in Sydney and studies blennies and evolution in the making.