In this podcast, David talks to Dr Graham Thom, refugee coordinator for Amnesty International Australia. They discuss a recent report made by Amnesty International about the state of the refugees held indefinitely at Nauru, and the responses that have come from both the Australian and Nauruan governments. David and Graham delve into what has become a touchy political subject, and try to bring some humanity back into what has become a discussion about numbers.

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